Saṃyutta Nikāya
II. Nidāna Vagga
12. Nidāna Saṃyutta
2. Āhāra Vagga
Sutta 13
Paṭhama Samaṇa-Brāhmaṇa Suttaṃ
Shamen and Brahmins (1)
Translated from the Pāḷi
by
Michael M. Olds
Once upon a time, The Lucky Man,
Sāvatthi-town revisiting,
Jeta Grove,
Anathapiṇḍika's Sporting Grounds.
There then The Lucky Man addressed the beggars, saying:
"Beggars!"
And the beggars responding
"Bhante!"
The Lucky Man said this to them:
"Any Shaman or Brahmin, beggars,
that does not understand
aging and death,
that does not understand
the self-rising of aging and death,
that does not understand
the ending of aging and death,
that does not understand
the walk-to-walk to the ending of
aging and death;
that does not understand
birth,
that does not understand
the self-rising of birth,
that does not understand
the ending of birth,
that does not understand
the walk-to-walk to the ending of
birth;
that does not understand
existence,
that does not understand
the self-rising of existence,
that does not understand
the ending of existence,
that does not understand
the walk-to-walk to the ending of
existence;
that does not understand
the bind-ups,
that does not understand
the self-rising of the bind-ups,
that does not understand
the ending of the bind-ups,
that does not understand
the walk-to-walk to the ending of
the bind-ups;
that does not understand
thirst,
that does not understand
the self-rising of thirst,
that does not understand
the ending of thirst,
that does not understand
the walk-to-walk to the ending of
thirst;
that does not understand
sensation,
that does not understand
the self-rising of sensation,
that does not understand
the ending of sensation,
that does not understand
the walk-to-walk to the ending of
sensation;
that does not understand
touch,
that does not understand
the self-rising of touch,
that does not understand
the ending of touch,
that does not understand
the walk-to-walk to the ending of
touch;
that does not understand
the six realms,
that does not understand
the self-rising of the six realms,
that does not understand
the ending of the six realms,
that does not understand
the walk-to-walk to the ending of
the six realms;
that does not understand
name and form,
that does not understand
the self-rising of name and form,
that does not understand
the ending of name and form,
that does not understand
the walk-to-walk to the ending of
name and form;
that does not understand
consciousness,
that does not understand
the self-rising of consciousness,
that does not understand
the ending of consciousness,
that does not understand
the walk-to-walk to the ending of
consciousness;
that does not understand
own-making,
that does not understand
the self-rising of own-making,
that does not understand
the ending of own-making,
that does not understand
the walk-to-walk to the ending of
own-making —
Not for me, beggars,
are these shamen or brahmins
or are these
considered by shamen as shamen, or
considered by brahmins as brahmens.
And furthermore, these Old Men,
do not, in this seen thing,
see for themselves
with higher knowledge,
or live attaining,
the point of shaminism or
the point of brahminism.
§
"But, any Shaman or Brahmin, beggars,
that does understand
aging and death,
that does understand
the self-rising of aging and death,
that does understand
the ending of aging and death,
that does understand
the walk-to-walk to the ending of
aging and death;
that does understand
birth,
that does understand
the self-rising of birth,
that does understand
the ending of birth,
that does understand
the walk-to-walk to the ending of
birth;
that does understand
existence,
that does understand
the self-rising of existence,
that does understand
the ending of existence,
that does understand
the walk-to-walk to the ending of
existence;
that does understand
the bind-ups,
that does understand
the self-rising of the bind-ups,
that does understand
the ending of the bind-ups,
that does understand
the walk-to-walk to the ending of
the bind-ups;
that does understand
thirst,
that does understand
the self-rising of thirst,
that does understand
the ending of thirst,
that does understand
the walk-to-walk to the ending of
thirst;
that does understand
sensation,
that does understand
the self-rising of sensation,
that does understand
the ending of sensation,
that does understand
the walk-to-walk to the ending of
sensation;
that does understand
touch,
that does understand
the self-rising of touch,
that does understand
the ending of touch,
that does understand
the walk-to-walk to the ending of
touch;
that does understand
the six realms,
that does understand
the self-rising of the six realms,
that does understand
the ending of the six realms,
that does understand
the walk-to-walk to the ending of
the six realms;
that does understand
name and form,
that does understand
the self-rising of name and form,
that does understand
the ending of name and form,
that does understand
the walk-to-walk to the ending of
name and form;
that does understand
consciousness,
that does understand
the self-rising of consciousness,
that does understand
the ending of consciousness,
that does understand
the walk-to-walk to the ending of
consciousness;
that does understand
own-making,
that does understand
the self-rising of own-making,
that does understand
the ending of own-making,
that does understand
the walk-to-walk to the ending of
own-making —
For me, beggars,
these are shamen or brahmins
and are
considered by shamen as shamen, or
considered by brahmins as brahmens.
And furthermore, these Old Men,
do, in this seen thing,
see for themselves
with higher knowledge,
and live attaining,
the point of shaminism or
the point of brahminism.
