Saṃyutta Nikāya
II. Nidāna Vagga
12. Nidāna Saṃyutta
7. Mahā Vagga

Sutta 70

Susīma Suttaṃ

Adapted from the 1995 edition of the digital version of the Sri Lanka Buddha Jayanti Tripitaka Series.

[1][than][pts][bodh] Evaṃ me sutaṃ:|| ||

Ekaṃ samayaṃ Bhagavā Rājagahe viharati Veḷuvane kalandaka nivāpe.|| ||

2. Tena kho pana samayena Bhagavā sakkato hoti||
garukato||
mānikato||
pūjito||
apacito||
lābhī cīvara-piṇḍa-pāta-sen'āsana-gilāna-paccaya-bhesajja-parikkhārānaṃ.|| ||

3. Bhikkhu-saṇgho pi sakkato hoti||
garukato||
mānikato||
pūjito||
apacito||
lābhī cīvara-piṇḍa-pāta-sen'āsana-gilāna-paccaya-bhesajja-parikkhārānaṃ.|| ||

4. Aññatitthiyā pana paribbājakā asakkatā honti agarukatā||
amānitā||
apūjitā||
na apacitā||
na lābhino cīvara-piṇḍa-pāta-sen'āsana-gilāna-paccaya-bhesajja-parikkhārānaṃ.|| ||

5. Tena kho pana samayena Susīmo paribbājako Rājagahe paṭivasati||
mahatiyā paribbājaka-parisāya saddhiṃ.|| ||

[120] 6. Atha kho Susīmassa paribbājakassa parisā Susīmaṃ paribbājakaṃ etad avocuṃ:|| ||

"Ehi tvaṃ āvuso Susīma,||
samaṇe Gotame Brahma-cariyaṃ cara||
tvaṃ dhammaṃ pariyāpuṇitvā amhe vāceyyāsi||
taṃ mayaṃ dhammaṃ pariyāpuṇitvā gihīnaṃ bhāsissāma.|| ||

Evaṃ mayam pi sakkatā bhavissāma garukatā mānitā pūjitā apacitā lābhino cīvara-piṇḍa-pāta-sen'āsana-gilāna-paccaya-bhesajja-parikkhārānan" ti.|| ||

7. "Evam āvuso" ti kho Susīmo paribbājako sakāya parisāya paṭi-s-sutvā yen'āyasmā Ānando ten'upasaṇkami.|| ||

Upasaṇkamitvā āyasmatā Ānandena saddhiṃ sammodi.|| ||

Sammodanīyaṃ kathaṃ sārāṇīyaṃ vīti-sāretvā eka-m-antaṃ nisīdi.|| ||

8. Eka-m-antaṃ nisinno kho Susīmo paribbājako āyasmantaṃ Ānandaṃ etad avoca:|| ||

"Icchām'ahaṃ āvuso Ānanda,||
imasmiṃ Dhamma-Vinaye Brahma-cariyaṃ caritun" ti.|| ||

9. Atha kho āyasmā Ānando Susīmaṃ paribbājakaṃ ādāya yena Bhagavā ten'upasaṇkami.|| ||

Upasaṇkamitvā Bhagavantaṃ abhivādetvā eka-m-antaṃ nisīdi.|| ||

10. Eka-m-antaṃ nisinno kho āyasmā Ānando Bhagavantaṃ etad avoca:|| ||

"Ayaṃ bhante Susīmo paribbājako||
evam āha:|| ||

'Icchām'ahaṃ āvuso Ānanda,||
imasmiṃ Dhamma-Vinaye Brahma-cariyaṃ caritun' ti".|| ||

11. "Tena h'Ānanda Susīmaṃ pabbājethā" ti.|| ||

12. Alattha kho Susīmo paribbājako Bhagavato santike pabbajjaṃ alattha upasampadaṃ.|| ||

13. Tena kho pana samayena sambahulehi bhikkhūhi Bhagavato santike aññā vyākatā hoti:|| ||

"Khīṇā jāti||
vusitaṃ Brahma-cariyaṃ||
kataṃ karaṇīyaṃ||
nāparaṃ itthattāyā" ti pajānāmāti.|| ||

14. Assosi kho āyasmā Susīmo.|| ||

Sambahulehi kira [121] bhikkhūhi Bhagavato santike aññā vyākatā.|| ||

"Khīṇā jāti||
vusitaṃ Brahma-cariyaṃ||
kataṃ karaṇīyaṃ||
nāparaṃ itthattāyā" ti pajānāmāti.|| ||

15. Atha kho āyasmā Susīmo yena te bhikkhu ten'upasaṇkami.|| ||

Upasaṇkamitvā tehi bhikkhūhi saddhiṃ sammodi.|| ||

Sammodanīyaṃ kathaṃ sārāṇīyaṃ vīti-sāretvā eka-m-antaṃ nisīdi.|| ||

16. Eka-m-antaṃ nisinno kho āyasmā Susīmo te bhikkhu etad avoca:|| ||

"Saccaṃ kira āyasmantehi Bhagavato santike aññā vyākatā:|| ||

'Khīṇā jāti||
vusitaṃ Brahma-cariyaṃ||
kataṃ karaṇīyaṃ||
nāparaṃ itthattāyā' ti pajānāmā" ti?|| ||

"Evam āvuso" ti.|| ||

17. "Api pana tumhe āyasmanto||
evaṃ jānantā||
evaṃ passantā||
aneka-vihitaṃ iddhi-vidhaṃ pacc'anubhotha:|| ||

Eko pi hutvā bahudhā hotha||
bahudhā pi hutvā eko hotha;||
āvībhāvaṃ||
tiro-bhāvaṃ||
tiro-kuḍḍaṃ||
tiro-pākāraṃ||
tiro-pabbataṃ||
asajja-mānā gacchatha||
seyyathā pi ākāse;||
paṭhaviyā pi ummujja nimujjaṃ karotha||
seyyathā pi udake;||
udake pi abhejjamāne gacchatha||
seyyathā pi paṭhaviyaṃ;||
ākāse pi pallaṇkena kamatha||
seyyathā pi pakkhi sakuṇo;||
ime pi candima-suriye||
evam mahiddhike||
evam mah-ā-nubhāve pāṇinā parāmasatha parimajjatha;||
yāva Brahma-lokā pi kāyena vasaṃ vattethā" ti?|| ||

"No h'etaṃ āvuso."|| ||

18. "Api pana tumhe āyasmanto||
evaṃ jānantā||
evaṃ passantā||
dibbāya sota-dhātuyā visuddhāya atikkanta mānusa-kāya ubho sadde suṇātha dibbe ca mānuse ca,||
ye dūre santike cāti?"|| ||

"No h'etaṃ āvuso."|| ||

19. "Api pana tumhe āyasmanto||
evaṃ jānantā||
evaṃ passantā||
para-sattāṇaṃ para-puggalānaṃ cetasā ceto paricca pajānātha:|| ||

Sarāgaṃ vā cittaṃ,||
'sarāgaṃ cittan' ti pajānātha;||
vīta-rāgaṃ vā cittaṃ,||
'vīta-rāgaṃ cittan' ti pajānātha;||
sadosaṃ vā cittaṃ,||
'sadosaṃ cittan' ti pajānātha;||
vīta-dosaṃ vā cittaṃ,||
'vīta-dosaṃ cittan' ti pajānātha;||
samohaṃ vā cittaṃ,||
[122] 'samohaṃ cittan' ti pajānātha;||
vīta-mohaṃ vā cittaṃ,||
'vīta-mohaṃ cittan' ti pajānātha;||
saṇkhittaṃ vā cittaṃ,||
'saṇkhittaṃ cittan' ti pajānātha;||
vikkhittaṃ vā cittaṃ,||
'vikkhittaṃ cittan' ti pajānātha;||
mahaggataṃ vā cittaṃ,||
'mahaggataṃ cittan' ti pajānātha;||
amahaggataṃ vā cittaṃ,||
'amahaggataṃ cittan' ti pajānātha;||
sa-uttaraṃ vā cittaṃ,||
'sa-uttaraṃ cittan' ti pajānātha;||
anuttaraṃ vā cittaṃ,||
'anuttaraṃ cittan' ti pajānātha;||
samāhitaṃ vā cittaṃ,||
'samāhitaṃ cittan' ti pajānātha;||
asamāhitaṃ vā cittaṃ,||
'asamāhitaṃ cittan' ti pajānātha;||
vimuttaṃ vā cittaṃ,||
'vimuttaṃ cittan' ti pajānātha;||
avimuttaṃ vā cittaṃ,||
'avimuttaṃ cittan' ti pajānāthā" ti?|| ||

"No h'etaṃ āvuso."|| ||

20. "Api pana tumhe āyasmanto||
evaṃ jānantā||
evaṃ passantā||
aneka-vihitaṃ pubbe-nivāsaṃ anussaratha?|| ||

Seyyath'īdaṃ:|| ||

Ekam pi jātiṃ||
dve pi jātiyo||
tisso pi jātiyo||
catasso pi jātiyo||
pañca pi jātiyo||
dasa pi jātiyo||
vīsam pi jātiyo||
tīsam pi jātiyo||
cattārisam pi jātiyo||
paññāsam pi jātiyo||
jāti-satam pi||
jāti-sahassam pi||
jāti-sata-sahassam pi,||
aneke pi saṃvaṭṭa-kappe||
aneke pi vivaṭṭa-kappe||
aneke pi saṃvaṭṭa-vivaṭṭa-kappe:|| ||

'Amutrāsiṃ evaṃ-nāmo||
evaṃ-gotto||
evaṃ-vaṇṇo||
evam-āhāro||
evaṃ sukha-dukkha-paṭisaṃvedī||
evam-āyu-pariyanto.|| ||

So tato vuto amutra udapādiṃ.|| ||

Tatrāpāsiṃ||
evaṃ-nāmo||
evaṃ-gotto||
evaṃ-vaṇṇo||
evam-āhāro||
evaṃ sukha-dukkha-paṭisaṃvedī||
evam-āyu-pariyanto,||
so tato vuto idh'ūpapanno' ti.|| ||

Iti sākāraṃ sa-uddesaṃ aneka-vihitaṃ pubbe-nivāsaṃ anussarathā" ti?|| ||

"No h'etaṃ āvuso."|| ||

21. "Api pana tumhe āyasmanto||
evaṃ jānantā||
evaṃ passantā||
dibbena cakkhunā visuddhena atikkanta-mānusakena satte passatha||
cavamāne uppajjamāne||
hīne paṇīte suvaṇṇe dubbaṇṇe||
sugate duggate yathā-kamm'ūpage satte pajānātha:|| ||

'Ime vata honto sattā kāya-du-c-caritena saman- [123] nāgatā||
vacī-du-c-caritena samannāgatā||
mano-du-c-caritena samannāgatā||
ariyānaṃ upavādakā micchā-diṭṭhikā||
micchā-diṭṭhi-kamma-samādānā||
te kāyassa bhedā param maraṇā||
apāyaṃ duggatiṃ vinipātaṃ Nirayaṃ upapannā.|| ||

Ime vāta bhonto sattā kāya-sucaritena samannāgatā||
vacī-sucaritena samannāgatā||
mano-sucaritena samannāgatā||
ariyānaṃ anupavādakā sammā-diṭṭhikā||
sammā-diṭṭhi-kamma-samādānā||
te kāyassa bhedā param maraṇā||
sugatiṃ saggaṃ lokaṃ upapannā' ti.|| ||

Iti dibbena cakkhunā visuddhena atikkanta-mānusakena satte passatha||
cavamāne uppajjamāne||
hīne paṇīte suvaṇṇe dubbaṇṇe||
sugate duggate yathā-kamm'ūpage satte pajānāthā" ti?|| ||

"No h'etaṃ āvuso."|| ||

22. "Api pana tumhe āyasmanto||
evaṃ jānantā||
evaṃ passantā||
ye te santā vimokkhā ati-k-kamma rūpe āruppā,||
te kāyena phusitvā viharathā" ti?|| ||

"No h'etaṃ āvuso."|| ||

At this point the PTS Pali has the following which, in a footnote is said to appear only in the S^I.3 manuscript:

24. "Ettha dāni āyasmanto,||
idañ ca veyyākaraṇaṃ imesañ ca dhammānaṃ asamāpatti;||
[idan te āvuso api pana tumhe āyasmanto evaṃ jānantā evam passantā ye te santā vimokhā atikamma rūpe arūppā te kāyena passitvā viharathā" ti.|| ||

No h'etaṃ āavuso'|| ||

Ettha dāni āyasmanto idañ ca veyyākaraṇam imesañ ca dhammānaṃ asamāpatti]|| ||

Idaṃ no āvuso.|| ||

25. Kathan" ti?|| ||

Translated by Mrs. Rhys Davids with the incomprehensible:

"Now here, venerable ones,
is both your replying
and your non-attainment of these things?"

"There is none, friend."

"How is that?"

Where the BJT and CSCD have:

"Ettha dāni āyasmanto,||
idañ ca veyyākaraṇaṃ imesañ ca dhammānaṃ asamāpatti.|| ||

Idaṃ no āvuso kathan" ti?|| ||

Translated by Bhk. Thanissaro as:

"So just now, friends, didn't you make that declaration without having attained any of these Dhammas?"

And translated by Bhk. Bodhi as:

"Here now, venerable ones: this answer and the nonattainment of those states, how could this be, friends?"

I suggest that what is the case here is that the fragment present in the S^I.3 manuscript represents what was an abridgment where Susīmaā is to repeat the entire series of questions and answers: When asked X you responded Y. Then to be followed with: How is this to be understood, that you claim that you have attained añña but you deny you have attained these things? This would follow the practice found in many other cases in the suttas. This form needs to be followed also in the conclusion made by Gotama below.

"Paññā-vimuttā kho mayaṃ āvuso Susīmā" ti.|| ||

26. "Na khv'āhaṃ imassa āyasmantānaṃ saṇkhittena bhāsitassa vitthārena atthaṃ ājānāmi,||
sādhu me āyasmanto tathā bhāsantu,||
yathā'haṃ imassa āyasmantānaṃ saṇkhittena bhāsitassa vitthārena atthaṃ ājāneyyan" ti.|| ||

[124] "Ājāneyyāsi vā tvaṃ āvuso Susīma,||
na vā tvaṃ ājāneyyāsi||
atha kho paññā-vimuttā mayan" ti.|| ||

28. Atha kho āyasmā Susīmo uṭṭhāy āsanā yena Bhagavā ten'upasaṇkami.|| ||

Upasaṇkamitvā Bhagavantaṃ abhivādetvā eka-m-antaṃ nisīdi.|| ||

29. Eka-m-antaṃ nisinno kho āyasmā Susīmo yāvatako tehi bhikkhūhi saddhiṃ ahosi kathā-sallāpo,||
taṃ sabbaṃ Bhagavato ārocesi.|| ||

30. "Pubabe kho Susīma, dhamma-ṭ-ṭhiti-ñāṇaṃ,||
pacchā nibbāṇe ñāṇan" ti.|| ||

31. "Na khv'āhaṃ bhante, imassa Bhagavatā saṇkhittena bhāsitassa vitthārena atthaṃ ājānāmi;||
sādhu me bhante, Bhagavā tathā bhāsatu,||
yathā'haṃ imassa Bhagavato saṇkhittena bhāsitassa vitthārena atthaṃ ājāneyyan" ti.|| ||

32. "Ājāneyyāsi vā tvaṃ Susīma,||
na vā tvaṃ ājāneyyāsi,||
atha kho dhamma-ṭ-ṭhiti-ñāṇaṃ pubbe,||
pacchā nibbāṇe ñāṇaṃ.|| ||

Taṃ kiṃ maññasi Susīma?|| ||

Rūpaṃ niccaṃ vā aniccaṃ cā" ti?|| ||

"Aniccaṃ bhante".|| ||

33. "Yaṃ panāniccaṃ dukkhaṃ vā taṃ sukhaṃ vā" ti?|| ||

"Dukkhaṃ bhante."|| ||

"Yaṃ panāniccaṃ dukkhaṃ vipariṇāma-dhammaṃ kallaṃ nu taṃ samanupassituṃ:|| ||

'Etaṃ mama,||
eso'ham'asmi,||
eso me attā' ti" ti?|| ||

"No h'etaṃ bhante."|| ||

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34. "Vedanā niccā vā||
aniccā vā" ti?|| ||

"Aniccā bhante."|| ||

"Yaṃ panāniccā dukkhā vā taṃ sukhā vā" ti?|| ||

"Dukkhā bhante."|| ||

"Yaṃ panāniccaṃ dukkhaṃ vipariṇāma-dhammaṃ kallaṃ nu taṃ samanupassituṃ:|| ||

'Etaṃ mama,||
eso'ham'asmi,||
eso me attā' ti" ti?|| ||

"No h'etaṃ bhante."|| ||

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35. "Saññā niccā vā||
aniccā vā" ti?|| ||

"Aniccā bhante."|| ||

"Yaṃ panāniccā dukkhā vā||
taṃ sukhā vāti?|| ||

"Dukkhā bhante."|| ||

"Yaṃ panāniccaṃ dukkhaṃ vipariṇāma-dhammaṃ kallaṃ nu taṃ samanupassituṃ:|| ||

'Etaṃ mama,||
eso'ham'asmi,||
eso me attā" ti" ti?|| ||

"No h'etaṃ bhante."|| ||

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36. "Saṇkhārā niccā vā||
aniccā vā ti?|| ||

"Aniccā bhante."|| ||

"Yaṃ panāniccā dukkhā vā taṃ sukhā vāti?|| ||

"Dukkhā bhante."|| ||

"Yaṃ panāniccaṃ dukkhaṃ vipariṇāma-dhammaṃ kallaṃ nu taṃ samanupassituṃ:|| ||

'Etaṃ mama,||
eso'ham'asmi,||
eso me attā' ti" ti?|| ||

"No h'etaṃ bhante."|| ||

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37. "Viññāṇaṃ niccaṃ vā||
aniccaṃ vāti?|| ||

[125] "Aniccā bhante."|| ||

"Yaṃ panāniccā dukkhā vā taṃ sukhā vāti?|| ||

"Dukkhā bhante."|| ||

"Yaṃ panāniccaṃ dukkhaṃ vipariṇāma-dhammaṃ kallaṃ nu taṃ samanupassituṃ:|| ||

'Etaṃ mama,||
eso'ham'asmi,||
eso me attā' ti" ti?|| ||

"No h'etaṃ bhante."|| ||

38. "Tasmātiha Susīma,||
yaṃ kiñci rūpaṃ atīt-ā-nāgata-pacc'uppannaṃ||
ajjhattaṃ vā||
bahiddhā vā||
oḷārikaṃ vā||
sukhumaṃ vā||
hīnaṃ vā||
paṇītaṃ vā||
yaṃ dūre santike vā,||
sabbaṃ rūpaṃ:|| ||