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Saɱyutta Nikāya
4. Saḷāyatana Vagga
36. Vedanā Saɱyutta
3. Aṭṭha-Sata-Pariyāya Vagga

Sutta 21

Moḷiya-Sīvaka Suttaɱ

Sīvaka

Translated by Bhikkhu Bodhi

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[1][pts][than][nypo] On one occasion the Blessed One was dwelling at Rājagaha in the Bamboo Grove, the Squirrel Sanctuary.

Then the wanderer Moliya-Sīvaka approached the Blessed One and exchanged greetings with him.

When they had concluded their greetings and cordial talk, he sat down to one side and said to the Blessed One:

"Master Gotama, there are some ascetics and brahmins who hold such a doctrine and view as this:

'Whatever a person experiences,
whether it be pleasant or painful or neither-painful-nor-pleasant,
all that is caused by what was done in the past.'

What does Master Gotama say about this?"

"Some feelings, Sīvaka arise here originating from bile disorders:
that some feelings arise here originating from bile disorders
one can know for oneself,
and that is considered to be true in the world.

Now when those ascetics and brahmins
hold such a doctrine and view as this,

'Whatever a person experiences,
whether it be pleasant or painful or neither-painful-nor-pleasant, all that is caused by what was done in the past,'

they overshoot what one knows by oneself and they overshoot what is considered to be true in the world.

Therefore I say that this is wrong on the part of those ascetics and brahmins.

Some feelings, Sīvaka arise here originating from phlegm disorders ...

originating from wind disorders ...

originating from an imbalance [of the three] ... produced by change of climate ...

produced by careless behaviour ...

caused by assault ...

Some feelings, Sīvaka arise here produced as the result of kamma: how some feelings arise here produced as the result of kamma one can know for oneself, and that is considered to be true in the world.|| ||

Now when those ascetics and brahmins hold such a doctrine and view as this,|| ||

'Whatever a person experiences, whether it be pleasant or painful or neither-painful-nor-pleasant, all that is caused by what was done in the past,'

they overshoot what one knows by oneself and they overshoot what is considered to be true in the world.

Therefore I say that this is wrong on the part of those ascetics and brahmins."

When this was said, the wanderer Moliya-Sīvaka said to the Blessed One:

"Magnificent, Master Gotama!

Magnificent, Master Gotama! ...

From today let Master Gotama remember me as a lay follower who has gone for refuge for life."

Bile, phlegm, and also wind,
Imbalance and climate too,
Carelessness and assault,
With kamma result as the eighth."


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